Today we went to church with Ginger. Her ward was having Stake Conference. Karen did really well for about an hour...after that it was pretty hard to keep her quiet and with no other kids in sight we finally had to escape to the car. We spent most of the day at Ginger's...Amy and her family were in Springville at Mike's nephew's missionary farewell. In the evening Amy got home and so we went and spent some time with them.